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{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"DiscussionForumPosting","headline":"Remove bundled setuptools","articleBody":"# Feature or enhancement\r\n\r\nRemove the bundled setuptools so that `ensurepip` and `python -m venv` only installs pip.\r\n\r\n# Context\r\n\r\nThe `setup.py install` command of `setuptools` is deprecated.\r\n\r\nHowever, in an environment where `setuptools` is installed but `wheel` is not (such as one created with `python -m venv`), pip falls back on running the deprecated and non-standard `setup.py install`.\r\n\r\nSince version 22.1 pip works correctly by default in environments where `setuptools` is not installed, by enabling its PEP 517 mode automatically, leading to unsurprising installations in most cases.\r\n\r\nSo, in order to progressively expose more users to standard-based installation workflows, we (the pip team) would like that virtual environments are created without `setuptools` by default.\r\n\r\nUsers faced with failing installations following this change (likely due to packages with customized `setup.py` that do not support building a wheel) can easily `pip install setuptools` to solve the issue.\r\n\r\n# Previous discussion\r\n\r\nhttps://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/8102#issuecomment-1195566597 and following comments has some more context.\r\n\n\n\u003c!-- gh-linked-prs --\u003e\n### Linked PRs\n* gh-101039\n* gh-103316\n* gh-103613\n\u003c!-- /gh-linked-prs --\u003e\n","author":{"url":"https://github.com/sbidoul","@type":"Person","name":"sbidoul"},"datePublished":"2022-07-26T20:37:59.000Z","interactionStatistic":{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":"https://schema.org/CommentAction","userInteractionCount":9},"url":"https://github.com/95299/cpython/issues/95299"}