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Title: Request / Discussion: Select-Object with one property causes many problems for beginners and has few legitimate use cases for anyone. Can that experience be improved for beginners? · Issue #5237 · PowerShell/PowerShell · GitHub

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Description: I see novices posting variations of this over and over on the internet: I have this code: get-thing | select name but why are there @{} in my output and how do I get rid of them? Why doesn't the output equal -eq 'user1' ? Why doesn't my ...

Open Graph Description: I see novices posting variations of this over and over on the internet: I have this code: get-thing | select name but why are there @{} in my output and how do I get rid of them? Why doesn't the ou...

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