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Description: One of the reasons that people complain about CUDA Array Interface (CAI) being slow is because it has side effects. Consider this example: >>> class KKK: ... @property ... def __proppp__(self): ... print("I am called") ... >>> >>> type(K...

Open Graph Description: One of the reasons that people complain about CUDA Array Interface (CAI) being slow is because it has side effects. Consider this example: >>> class KKK: ... @property ... def __proppp__(self): ......

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